Håhåhå du… Den mannen var ikke bare en liten tyrann som dikterte sitt eget folk. Den mannen var en statsleder som ble benyttet av flere andre, der i blant den Vest-Tyske etteretningstjensen Bundesnachrichtendienst.

According to internal correspondence between secret services found in Tripoli that has been passed on to Human Rights Watch, the CIA and Britain’s overseas intelligence agency, MI6, let the Libyan secret service torture terror suspects. The practice, which was not permitted at the Guantanamo Bay detention camp, was relocated – it seems – to torture chambers in Gadhafi’s dictatorial regime in Tripoli.

In return, Libya’s secret service was said to have been generously provided with information about Libyan dissidents and was even assisted with the deportations of exiled dissidents back to Libya.

Whether or not other intelligence services, for example Germany’s Bundesnachrichtendienst (BND), closely cooperated with Libya remains unanswered. But this wouldn’t be that surprising. From 2004 on, when Gadhafi renounced weapons of mass destruction, he was rehabilitated to all effects in Western circles.

Kilde: http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,15368146,00.html

I mens det ble propagandert med “demokrati og frihet” hjemme i vesten sendte man ut personer til diktaturstater for å bli torturert der, for slikt kunne man jo ikke tillate seg i et “fritt og demokratisk” land…
Og dette er ikke de eneste hemmelighetene en har å skjule når det gjelder Ghadaffi.

Vestlige selskaper gjør alt for å få fjernet «skitne hemmeligheter» i Libya
Vestlige regjeringer og internasjonale selskaper bruker etterretningsagenter og private sikkerhetsselskap for å få fjernet hemmelige dokumenter. – Dagbladet 6. oktober 2011

Det ender ikke der. Sporene fører oss videre til Egypt og Mubarak…

Serious accusations about the use of torture are being raised against the Egyptian military, which for decades had been supported by the Federal Republic of Germany. Over the past few days, according to reports by various human rights organizations, soldiers have abducted hundreds – possibly even thousands – of demonstrators and tortured many of them. Serious accusations had already been raised earlier against the Mukhabarat secret service.

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Human rights organizations are raising serious accusations of torture against the Egyptian military. As Human Rights Watch reported, soldiers and military police officers have arbitrarily abducted at least 119 protestors over the past few days, several of whom have been tortured. Observers estimate the total number of victims, among them journalists, to range into the hundreds, “possibly thousands.” Reports began to surface already earlier that the Mukhabarat secret service, an appendage of the military, had also abducted journalists.

Mukhabarat is a partner agency to the West German Federal Intelligence Service (BND). The long-time head of the Mukhabarat, Omar Suleiman, recently named Vice President, and currently the most powerful individual in Cairo, has threatened a putsch, if the protests do not subside soon. Repression and threats are intended to insure the predominance of the military, which, de facto, already has control of the government.

Cooperation

Cooperation between Germany’s Bundeswehr and BND with the repressive organs of the Egyptian state dates back to the 1950s, when former Nazi Wehrmacht and SS personnel were involved in upgrading the Egyptian military. This cooperation had been successful for more than a decade until it was interrupted in the 60s.

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Renewal

The German government renewed its intelligence and military cooperation only in the 1970s. Very much to the liking of Washington and Bonn, Anwar as-Sadat, after taking office in 1970, was intensively seeking sources of western capital. In August 1973, the Egyptian espionage service was again accepted as one of the BND’s partner services. This new cooperation suffered a brief setback during the Yom Kippur War until, in the run-up to the Camp David Accords, the BND held regular meetings on the highest level with the Egyptian intelligence service. The publicist Erich Schmidt-Eenboom notes that in 1978, “the Egyptian intelligence service received unusual strong support” from the BND, including the delivery of German technology and the corresponding training in radio surveillance.

Since then, German-Egyptian cooperation has been an element of the correlation of forces, in which Egypt, on the basis of the Camp David Accords, operates in close partnership with the USA and, therefore, also Israel. It was no coincidence that Israel was the first country mentioned, when possible exile countries for Hosni Mubarak were debated. The US-led cooperation is seeking, in particular, to maintain western control over Middle East resources and to prevent the formation of a common Arab front against western hegemony, such as the one sought in the 1950s by President Gamal Abdel Nasser, who the CIA sought to overthrow. The cooperation of the Bundeswehr, the German police and the BND with Egypt is part of this effort. The German Federal Office of Criminal Investigation (BKA) has one and the German Federal Police has two liaison officers permanently stationed in Cairo. Between 1999 and 2009 alone, Egypt received German military supplies worth 270 million Euros. The armed forces of both countries have a cooperation program. The German Bundeswehr is currently training eleven officers of the Egyptian army. In spite of the current demonstrations, this cooperation will be continued. It serves geo-strategic objectives, and from the German point of view, will not be jeopardized, even by the battle for democracy taking place in Cairo.

kilde: http://www.ocnus.net/artman2/publish/Dark_Side_4/Torture_printer.shtml

Jeg har ikke sett bildene av det de har gjort med Ghaddafi. Det har jeg ikke lyst til heller. Jeg ikke bare tror, jeg er sterkt overbevist om at når seiersrusen har lagt seg vil folket angre bittert på at de ikke fikk tatt et rettslig oppgjør med mannen, at de ikke fikk svar på sine spørsmål, alle de mennesker som ønsket å få vite “hvorfor gjorde du dette mot min bror/søster/far/mor/sønn/datter?”, vil aldri få noe svar.

Det er et dårlig omen å bygge et demokrati på urett og lovløshet…

@Gandalf: Takker for det du har lagt ut av informasjon. Jeg har tenkt akkurat det samme som deg. Så lenge han var en nyttig samarbeidspartner, lot Vesten ham styre på. Er det noen som snakker høyt om hva franskmennene gjorde da Gaddafi prøvde å hjelpe Elfenbenskysten til å ta økonomisk kontroll på sine egne ressurser? Nei. Man burde kikke nærmere på det, jeg lærte ihvertfall mye av å studere dette. Historien blir skrevet av seiersherrene, og det bør det være liten tvil om. I dag burde vi imidlertid sitte på nok informasjon til å vite bedre enn å drive med bullshit.

Hum, jeg må ha stått opp med feil ben i dag, for Hanne Nabintu Herland actually makes sense!
Jenta har funnet sin nisje, og må si hun kan faget sitt. Absolutt noe hun burde holde seg til.

Tyrann fjernet tyrann

I den grad Muammar al-Gadafi var en tyrann, ble tyrannen fjernet av en verre tyrann – NATO.

NATOs krigføring og bidrag til folkemordet i Libya er et av vår tids verste eksempler på Vestens overgrep. I en rettferdig verden ville de politisk ansvarlige bli stilt for domstolen i Haag for forbrytelser mot menneskeheten. For NATO har i vår levetid gått fra å være en transatlantisk forsvarsallianse til en maktpolitisk angrepsallianse mot svake stater der Vestens interesser er truet.

kilde: http://www.aftenposten.no/meninger/debatt/Tyrann-fjernet-tyrann-6681358.html